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Kirjoittaja: | oh1ma [ To Marras 30, 2006 8:15 am ] |
Viestin otsikko: | GSM pörinä |
Oletteko keksineet jotain suodatusta GSM pörinää vasten. Inakin mun K2 pörisee pahasti jos känny on alle 0.5m rigistä ja se päivittelee itseään tukiaseman kanssa. Mun muut rigit eivät ole läheskään näin herkkiä tälle. Jaska |
Kirjoittaja: | OH3RF [ To Marras 30, 2006 10:05 am ] |
Viestin otsikko: | GSM-altis |
Sama ilmiö myös minulla. En ole tutkinut asiaa enempää, mutta monet muutkin laitteet reagoivat GSM-puhelimen signaaliin samalla tavalla ( phillipsin TV yms. ). Jussi OH3RF |
Kirjoittaja: | oh4mfa [ To Marras 30, 2006 2:45 pm ] |
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Riittävä etäisyys rigiin, mutta se ei paljoa auta jos tarvitsee sen kännyn esim gprs qsoon siinä samalla pöydällä. Niinkuin oli mulla joskus. Eli en ole sittemmin käyttänyt nettilusteria. Elecrafti listalta löytyi OH2ZAZ posti: Elecraft] Re: [TenTec] RFI from GSM phone into 705 mike? from [Arjen Raateland] [Bookmark Link][Original] To: <elecraft> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: [TenTec] RFI from GSM phone into 705 mike? From: Arjen Raateland <Arjen> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:52:17 +0300 Arjen Raateland wrote: > I just noticed that my Ten-Tec 705 desk mike suffers from RFI whenever a > GSM phone is active within ca. 3 m. I don't have a GSM phone myself, so > I hadn't noticed this before. > > When VOX is used, the rig's TX will come on with full power; when PTT is > used, the GSM phone also causes a microphone signal more than big enough > for full output. As detected on a second RX the resulting audio is > typical of GSM phone interference. I haven't been on-line yet since sending off the above, so I haven't read replies if any, but in the mean time I have succeeded in making the mike quite a bit less sensitive to the GSM signal. First I slipped a single large ferrite bead type FB43-801 on the white (af), red (+) and black (gnd) wires from the microphone cable near to the PCB. This helped nicely, as the RFI free distance was more than halved from 3 m to 1 m. Next I dug up a not too big clamp-on choke and added that over the microphone cable inside the mike stand. It does take up fairly much space, but I don't use a battery inside the stand anyway. Then I unsoldered the twisted wires to the microphone element close to the PCB and pulled them twice through a longish ferrite bead type FB77-6301 (5 mm hole) before resoldering them. (Fortunately I had used teflon insulated wire, so it didn't become a mess.) The sensitivity to the GSM signal is now even better (say half a meter). I think that it might also be wise to add a ferrite bead with a few turns in the af signal line on the jumper block inside the K2 transceiver itself. I found that the TX is keyed by a close-in GSM signal even when the 705 mic's pre-amp isn't on (while using VOX mode on the K2). I did NOT test for RFI rattle on the modulation itself during normal use of the transmitter when a GSM phone is operated nearby. I just tested how far away the GSM phone needed to be to not activate the the VOX. I'm afraid there won't be any more testing now as I had to borrow a GSM phone to do the tests and even though ringing is enough the test for RFI, the phone has to be on, of course. I managed to lock up one GSM phone by entering the wrong PIN code thrice, which is a big boo, boo ![]() To re-open it, forms need to be filled in triplicate, or so it seems as the phone is job-related .... Anybody using a microphone preamp inside the K2 transceiver could do worse than adding ferrite beads already during installation. One could probably even slip small beads over the jumper block pins. BTW, my current setup: K2 and Ten-Tec desk mike sit only a few meters away from the Hustler whip antenna (20 m) on my balcony, but that hasn't caused any problems. However, a GSM signal of rather less power is able to cause a good amount of RFI. 73, - -- Arjen Raateland OH2ZAZ AX.25: OH2ZAZ@OH2RBI.FIN.EU |
Kirjoittaja: | OH3FP [ Pe Joulu 08, 2006 4:06 pm ] |
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Mielestäni se GSM:n RF menee suoraan K2 audio PA piiriin eli sen rauhoittaminen RF herkkyydeltä voinee auttaa. Se oli aika ärsyttävää kun puhelu tai tekstari oli tulossa niin K2 pörisi ja kuulokkeilla kuunnellessa vielä pahempi. Luulisi jonkun keksineen jotain kun niitä on sentään rakennettu euroopassakin missä GSM on valtaosalla jenkeistä poiketen. 73 de oh3fp |
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